Comment: TECHNICAL KNOCK-OUT!!!
Author:
Nana Akyea Mensah, The Odikro.Date:
2009-11-10 15:20:06Comment to:
"Articles the you raise" HEHEHi Sarpong,
Sarpong,
You asked for it and so I am going to give it to you!
I ISSUE A TECHNICAL KNOCK-OUT ON THE BASIS OF "WRONG SERVICE!"
REASON:
what you are insisting to be wrong is very much right!
You ONLY see it wrong out of genuine IGNORANCE. Never try to challenge me again when Nana Akyea Mensah insists! I have been insisting all this while that it is right and yet you keep on posting the same thing! This time, I am not going to spare you at all!
I shall take the time to teach you the English you obviously do not know just to have my peace of mind.
DIAGNOSTICS OF YOUR PROBLEM
Comment: "Such as the one you mention"
Author: SARPONG
Date: 2009-11-03 08:07:45
FIRST, YOU NEED TO HELP YOURSELF. YOU COULDN'T CORRECT A GLARING MISTAKE JUST A COUPLE OF HOURS AGO AND NOW YOU ARE A TEACHER, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
I CAN CORRECT MY MISTAKES IN JUST ONE CHANCE, HOW MANY CHANCES DO YOU NEED TO CORRECT MENTION?
Sarpong says:
"Go and learn past and present tenses, ok? It's "mentioned" not mention.
Comparing a natural disaster of a crisis such as the one you mention at Bawku to a tro tro in Ghana, requires alot of imagination.
SHOULD RATHER READ:
Comparing a natural disaster or a crisis such as the one you mention at Bawku to a tro tro in Ghana, requires alot of imagination.
IS THAT THE CORRECTION, IDIOT?
"such as the one you [mention]"?
YOU ARE A DISGRACE."
Now Ladies and gentlemen, I am going to focus on the operational sentence:
""Go and learn past and present tenses, ok? It's "mentioned" not mention."
In my diagnosis of his problem, it is clear that Sarpong has never ever heard of the use of the HISTORICAL PRESENT TENSE!
HERE IS AN EXPLANATION FROM WIKIPEDIA:
"In linguistics and rhetoric, the historical present (sometimes dramatic present) refers to the employment of the present tense when narrating past events. Besides its use in writing about history, especially in historical chronicles (listing a series of events), it is used in fiction, for 'hot news' (as in headlines), and in everyday conversation (Huddleston & Pullum 2002: 129-131). In conversation, it is particularly common with 'verbs of communication' such as tell, write, and say (and in colloquial uses, go) (Leech 2002: 7).
Literary critics and grammarians have said that the historical present has the effect of making past events more vivid. More recently, analysts of its use in conversation have argued that it functions, not by making an event present, but by marking segments of a narrative, foregrounding events (that is, signalling that one event is particularly important, relevant to others) and marking a shift to evaluation (Brinton 1992: 221).
Examples
Following is an excerpt from Dickens' David Copperfield, in which we can see the shift from the past tense to the historical present gives the sense of immediacy, as of a recurring vision:
“ If the funeral had been yesterday, I could not recollect it better. The very air of the best parlour, when I went in at the door, the bright condition of the fire, the shining of the wine in the decanters, the patterns of the glasses and plates, the faint sweet smell of cake, the odour of Miss Murdstone’s dress, and our black clothes. Mr. Chillip is in the room, and comes to speak to me.
'And how is Master David?' he says, kindly.
I cannot tell him very well. I give him my hand, which he holds in his. (Chapter IX)”
Examples of its use by historians are often found in the weekly BBC programme with Melvyn Bragg, In Our Time, and some listeners have complained about its use as confusing or affected:
“I don't understand why historians on In Our Time speak of past events in what sounds to me like a form of the present tense, for example: "Aristotle thinks that reason isn't located in space and time". Does anyone else find this annoying ? What's wrong with "Aristotle thought that reason wasn't located in space and time" ? What am I missing ? They all do it every week.
READ ANOTHER EXPLANATION HERE:
By Richard Nordquist, About.com
Definition: HISTORIC PRESENT
The use of a verb phrase in the present tense to refer to an event that took place in the past. In narratives, the historic present may be used to create an effect of immediacy. See also: The Historic Present in Angela's Ashes by Frank McCourt.
Examples and Observations:
* "A horse walks into a bar. The bartender asks, 'Hey, why the long face?'"
* "Verbs in the 'historic present' describe something that happened in the past. The present tense is used because the facts are listed as a summary, and the present tense provides a sense of urgency. This historic present tense is also found in news bulletins. The announcer may say at the start, 'Fire hits a city centre building, the government defends the new minister, and in football City United lose.'"
("Language Notes," BBC World Service)
* "Well Mr. Churchill says, Mr. Churchill says
We gotta fight the bloody battle to the very end."
(Ray Davies, "Mr. Churchill Says," Arthur, by the Kinks, 1969)
* "When the reference point of the narration is not the present moment but some point in the past, we have the 'historical present,' in which a writer tries to parachute the reader into the midst of an unfolding story (Genevieve lies awake in bed. A floorboard creaks . . .). The historical present is also often used in the setup of a joke, as in A guy walks into a bar with a duck on his head . . . Though the you-are-there illusion forced by the historical present can be an effective narrative device, it can also feel manipulative. Recently a Canadian columnist complained about a CBC Radio news program that seemed to him to overuse the present tense, as in 'UN forces open fire on protesters.' The director explained to him that the show is supposed to sound 'less analytic, less reflective' and 'more dynamic, more hot' than the flagship nightly news show."
(Steven Pinker, The Stuff of Thought. Viking, 2007)
Sarpong, I can be very magnanimous in victory! Let's bury the hatchet. Try something else. You can never win even if you read English at the university, because I also know my stuff and I am sure of myself!
I WANT US TO MOVE ON! STOP TREATING PEOPLE AS ILLITERATES NOW!
I am even ready to bail you out! You can secretly improve your English on-line instead of correcting grammar with your struggling grammar. To help you with your grammar, google:
A grammar book for you and I-- oops, me!: all the grammar you need to ...
By C. Edward Good
I am serious. Just give it a try! No one will see you!
You are quite a fighter, even though you are no match. I suppose if you improve your English, you can give me a better fight. Please do this before the next electoral campaign! I am looking forward to a more interesting debate than boring grammatical corrections in which you can NEVER WIN!
OTHER EXAMPLES OF THE USE OF "YOU MENTION" IN ENGLISH USAGE:
* "You mention that distributivity fails for 'one ought to'. What kind of Kripke-models exist for deontic modal systems incorporating that failure? Such a system can't be grafted on to K since distributivity of necessity over conjunction is a property of K.
7:56 PM, January 22, 2009
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* "You mention one that struck a chord. We really enjoyed going to the Ravenswood Winery on our trip."
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* What is Shakespeare saying here?
Hello
I am writing to ask for views on exactly what Shakespeare is saying here. The quote is from The Winter's Tale:
Polixenes:
Quote:
Say there be;
Yet nature is made better by no mean,
But nature makes that mean; so, ev'n that art,
Which, you say, adds to nature, is an art,
That nature makes
The reason I am asking is that Coleridge, who had a thing or two to say about Shakespeare, maintains that what Shakespeare is saying is that art comes before nature, that our perception of nature is somehow determined by how we perceive it artistically.
Is Shakespeare not, in fact, saying precisely the opposite? To me Shakespeare seems to be saying that nature has 'the final say', so to speak. That is, whatever art adds to nature - in painting, literature, etc - is itself
a product of nature. That is, remove the external world and there is no imagination. That's how I'm reading it.
Any comments would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Steve
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NOW READ YOUR COMMENT AGAIN TO YOUR ETERNAL SHAME!
Comment: "Articles the you raise" HEHE
Author: SARPONG.
Date: 2009-11-10 09:17:38
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THIS IS PERFECTLY CORRECT!
Author: Nana Akyea Mensah, The Odikro.
Date: 2009-11-03 08:31:02
Sarpong,
You are in no position to correct anybody's English because you have a very weak grasp of the language! I insist that there is absolutely nothing wrong with what your are trying to find fault here!
Here is where you are going to be caught red-handed. "Mention" is RIGHT.
I COULD HAVE WRITTEN "Articles the you raise at Bawku." Note that "raise" is also in the present tense! Which school did you attend? Must we blame the school? I am perfectly convinced that you passed through school, but school did not pass through you! This "waterproof" attitude of yours to knowledge is clearly on display today!
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READ:
"Comparing a natural disaster or a crisis such as the one you [mention] at Bawku to a tro tro in Ghana, requires alot of imagination."
THE ABOVE SENTENCE IS WRONG, FOOL
Thanks for helping me to expose you further for what you really are, a
charlatan who is capable of becoming a quack doctor if you can get away with
it!
You shall not get away with it! Don't you have anything at all to say about
your FRESH AND VERIFIABLE BULLET ON THIS VERY PAGE?
SHAME UNTO YOU!
Cheers!
These attacks are going to continue until you stop calling people
"illiterates" in this forum!
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